Can't access forum directly from url on PC

I get this page if i click an external link from within forum then hit back button - Firefox 57

I'm guessing that discourse checks location of logins to its stored database and when that differs, it blocks access to it. That will happen when logins are using low-level vpn's.

Most websites checks location of users, and some disallow access if coming from locations not within its 'allowed range'. For example bbc and cnn disallow(s) access to its (their) video/streaming or download pages from 'non-certified' location(s) (similar to China's barring 'free world' access :rofl: ).

The question(s) therefore is (are) .....
Should Manjaro (through discourse) bar logins of users that differ from its 'stored database'?
Is it 'wrong' or 'disapproved' to use vpn in accessing Manjaro forum?

Obviously some (many) of us have no problem(s) circumventing this (these) 'restrictions' (restriction) but nevertheless it is good to have this (these) clarified.

ps: sorry for my confusion on plural (singular) grammar.
lucky I don't have to struggle with gender grammar.
seems I'm quite okay with past/present/past participal grammar
Ho! Ho! Ho!

i'm not using a vpn.

Noted. But watch out for 'addons' that have vpn capabilities. It's fine.

Still the question remains...

what it is is off-topic.

How is that off-topic when I suggest that vpn or add-ons can be a cause of the issue.
It may not, as you think, but how is that off-topic?

asking whether vpns might be a cause of the problem is not off-topic. trying to start a conversation about whether vpns should be allowed is.

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Well I have firefox on my laptop with ublock origin and privacy badger , and I have firefox withought them on android . The same thing happens on android . Could it be possible some option in firefox couses this error ?

P.S. They are synched with firefox sync.

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I haven't replicated this at all...


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indicates that you've loaded part of the Discourse application but it can't communicate with the server. Can anyone who has this please check Firefox's Web Developer->Network tool? This should give some indication about what is failing.

Also, try with a fresh, blank Firefox profile to rule out local configuration changes or extensions.

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If you click on the first (only) item there it will give you more information about the request.

Also, from :

So this points to an issue related to caching, whether in your browser, or server-side. I suspect it's browser-side.

i had a suspicion on the timing: waterfox 56 was installed 12/2. downgrading to 55 solved the problem. that doesn't tell me what the problem IS, though, and not everyone having it is on waterfox.

Hai @all,

if i try to connect direct to the Forum site i often get:

Cannot load app

It looks like you are offline! Please check your network connection and try again.

If i load my complete "daily dir" from Fx 57 favorites it works perfect!

Maybe this is a problem since the new established Network connecton inside the Kernel is handled(?)

I hope this can help:

Sorry if this is no help, i'm not a professional supporter.


System:    Host: manjaro Kernel: 4.14.7-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.2.1
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 (Gtk 2.24.31) info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Dell product: Precision WorkStation T3500 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 09KPNV v: A00 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A17 date: 05/28/2013
           Chassis: type: 7 serial: N/A
CPU:       6 core Intel Xeon W3680 (-MT-MCP-) arch: Nehalem rev.2 cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 40018
           clock speeds: min/max: 1596/3326 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz 3: 3326 MHz 4: 1596 MHz 5: 1596 MHz
           6: 1596 MHz 7: 3326 MHz 8: 3326 MHz 9: 3326 MHz 10: 1596 MHz 11: 1596 MHz 12: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1401
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) driver: nvidia Resolution: 2560x1440@59.95hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.98 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA Device 0fba driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fba
           Card-2 Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a3e
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.14.7-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5761 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1681
           IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 7065.4GB (60.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ADATA_SP900 size: 64.0GB serial: <filter>
           ID-2: /dev/sdc model: WDC_WD2003FYPS size: 2000.4GB serial: <filter>
           ID-3: /dev/sdd model: WDC_WD2003FYPS size: 2000.4GB serial: <filter>
           ID-4: /dev/sdb model: ST3000VX000 size: 3000.6GB serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 48G used: 20G (42%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /boot size: 976M used: 153M (16%) fs: ext3 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: /home size: 2.7T used: 1.4T (54%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 8.59GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 30.8C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:48C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 278 Uptime: 2 days Memory: 7042.8/12010.3MB Init: systemd v: 235 Gcc sys: 7.2.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.3.53 

If more informations are needed please ask for it.

Thanks in advance

that's a new take on the problem, i might try switching kernels and see if it helps.

edit: nope, 4.9 has the same problem.

But it (must?) have to do something with the internet speed or answer times of the website.
And it might, that the faster access on websites was backported to the older LTS kernels.

In my daily dir, which i open up all at once with a middle click, the site is everytime(!) there.
And if the connection is established it works a second, third, ... time.

But not the other way round.

Other idea:
I'm permanent logged in, might this cause problems?


This is really annoying cause i can write here in this Fx window but cannot reload a written text inside the forum - all it get is this fücking Cannot load app.

I can't debug this unless I can replicate it, and I've never had this issue.

If one browser (or a clean profile) works but another doesn't, then it's something you've configured in that browser. If no browsers work, then it moves it towards something network-related.

Given this:

I suspect it's browser-related.

more specifically browser version related. waterfox 56 pulled in a bunch of patches from firefox 57. i don't have the problem with waterfox 55. is anyone using a firefox other than 57 having the problem? did those patches get pulled into the latest ff 52 esr as well?

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