Aragorn, post:4, topic:155478
One of the problems with the #manjaro channel on IRC is that it's filled to the brim with Arch users who nary say a word, and who are only there because they've set up a bouncer that keeps them online on IRC 24/7 even if they power down their computers. I used to run an IRC network ─ between 2002 and roughly 2009 ─ so I'm quite familiar with the phenomenon.
Those people have probably already long forgotten that they're parked in the #manjaro channel, or they are only there to show off how l33t they are, but they've got nothing to do with Manjaro, they're not offering any assistance at all, and they're only making an unintelligible jungle out of the nick list, and flooding the main channel window with their ping timeouts and auto-reconnects/auto-rejoins.
/names #manjaro to fetch their nicknames and highlight/mention them in the channel to get them ragequit the channel
zbe, post:5, topic:155478
Sorry but that makes no sense. Most people are mostly idling. And most people have bouncers or some other means of being online 24/7 - me included. There's no 100% assistance anywhere.
Anyway, I can tell you my story from year ago when I installed Manjaro. It took 15 minutes to boot. You know what was first thing I did? (after googling for 30 min) I opened Konversation, connected to irc and asked if anyone has any idea. Someone said install haveged and enable it. It worked. It felt like a faster and more appropriate option than registering on forum. For someone else that might be Discord or Matrix or whatever exists, I can't even follow everything.
Anyway, I guess my point is: xkcd
AFAIK I've never joined the manjaro channel, but my experience with asking help over IRC is the quite opposite. The persons which are "present" don't know it or -even worse- troll you. Waiting till someone helpful pops up takes almost near a complete human life-span.
Overall, I think IRC does not fit for a communication medium nowadays.
- You are required to run a client 24/7 or run a bouncer (which costs $$$ and time and effort to maintain the vps/dedi you're running on it, and even more $$$ if you use a "boucer-service").
- It's a bad medium as information silo.
A separate service or bot is required to make the channel searchable. Despite that, new newcomes keep coming and asking the same questions over and over again. Granted, you could fill up your channel with bots which spam the help-asker with wall of text of what he has to do. From personal experience, the bot-owner barely gives those "informative" wall of texts an update.
- Asking for help derails A LOT to the intelligent of the asker, linkings to websites about how asking help to others (which are too long to read to be honest) and anything else what's not related to the help-question from the start.
vfbsilva, post:17, topic:155478
IRC is a moderated multiplayer notepad. Like a whatsapp group but with the possibility to host intelligent conversations and no image memes.
Do you know Your World of Text?