(RIP: Netty) "She's dead, Jim!"

Manjaro32 is waiting for a new home!

(I didn't want to choose the subtitle:

If he can do it you can do it!

Because c00ter is a rather experienced user. But the installation might become a bit of a challenge.)

@c00ter, so if you find time and joy or need some help you are free to ask and report here.

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You know, I've been seriously considering that, and @jonathon (and others, I'm sure) have done a lot of work setting that up. Gosh, I guess I outta support that effort by running it, huh?

@eugen-b, you rock (as always)! :smiley:

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You can as well install archlinux32. (Sorry, for off-topic, @jsbach! It will be moved to a dedicated one. Edit: Done!)

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LOL! Manjaro32 is cool with me. Guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow! :smiley:

(Oh please, change the title. Pretty please? Do you wanna see me beg? OK, I'm begging.) :smiley:

(thread title changed from VIP to VVIP)

Better?

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I give up. :wink:

EDIT: I'm a little bit excited--haven't had much of a challenge lately. Think I'll give Netty a good clean/blow-out prior. :smiley:

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Just when you thought the thread title couldn't get any better ... bam !

:laughing:

Well, it is Xmas ... lucky Netty ... :wink:

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  • Post 1: Started Manjaro install Xfce 17.06 i686 approx. 10:30 AM PDST...
  • Post 2: Manjaro installed, rebooted, error messages (expected), up and running.
  • Post 3: No updates, as expected. Killed off MSM, etc. to free up some of the 1 GB RAM installed to Netty.
  • Post4: Edited mirrors, updated & changed keyrings per @jonathon's page, http://manjaro32.org/
  • Post 5: Failed update, 671 MB in size, due to conflicting files, "/usr/lib/firefox/distribution.ini exixts in both 'firefox' and 'manjaro-browser-settings' Errors occured, no packages were updated"
  • Post 6: Will examine which conflict to resolve, then run update again. Note: Terminal work-only.
  • Post 7: pacman -R manjaro-browser-settings, per @jonathon.
  • Post 8: pacman -Syu, resumed updating, taking defaults.
  • Post 9: System fully updated, installed pacaur, screenfetch & Chromium, rebooted...
  • Post 10: Et voila!

Screenshot_2017-12-29_12-21-09

I had hoped this would be a bit more challenging. :smiley: but it was mostly copy/paste.

IF I CAN DO IT, YOU CAN TOO! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Posted from Netty.

@jonathon, I hope Manjaro32 is a pleasurable labor. I know it is a lot of hard work to get it to this point.

@philm, I believe continuing with Manjaro32 will bring more people in our doors and retain current i686 users. With other distros dropping it, users will be looking for a new-to-them home.

@eugen-b, what & where are the kernels you recommend for Netty?

@jonathon
@eugen-b
@philm

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I think you can safely remove that package.

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They all work on mine. With 4.14 BFQ is broken(but you can check with kernel parameter elevator=bfq, CFQ is used as default instead. Other kernels default to BFQ. It might have an advantage with HDDs to use BFQ. There are slight difference in RAM usage between different kernels, but I'll have to boot then, run free and post it. hdparm -tT also reports varying speed depending on the kernel, but not in relvant amounts.

And of course, congratulations to the new installation! :+1:
Can you post inxi -Fxxz?

Sure will--after I um, borrow, it back from my spouse. She's not particularly pleased with me, having Netty used as proof-of-concept. I went to bed, having forgotten to setup FF for her video-streaming pleasure. After much cussing she got it working, but you know how it is--Windows programmers tend to disdain Linux. I got to hear all about it in the morning.

My ears still feel punished. :wink:

And MS Edge isn't capable of streaming? Why Firefox? :wink:

@eugen-b, LOL! She's still running 7 (I think). Once they get a development platform setup, code monkeys don't like making many changes to their systems.

She prefers FF for her daily use, anyway, but if she also happens to provide web services for her clients she has to test it in various Windows web browsers. But not Edge. I guess you need Win10 to run Edge, or so I think I've read. She was an analyst/programmer long before Windows arrived, so she still irks at restrictions like that.

Developers develop. They don't want changes to whatever platform they use--no sir! Distrohoppers hop, and a different one per day is too much for coders to handle. The thought would make their heads asplode! :wink:

So she codes Windows applications and markets web services to new start-up businesses. (Shameless plug: https://www.kickthewind.com/ )

I'll never be able to influence her to change to Linux and gave up long ago. Well, except for LAMP servers. She's pretty good at setting up LAMP servers...

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And now we know her name...:smiling_imp:
A really nice website! Only that buble wheel doesn't roll smoothly on my Inox (Chromium based) browser.

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I'll tell her to add more scrolling crap, exploding fireworks, multicolored unkerned text...you know, the stuff. :wink:

Nah, she'll appreciate the compliment. :smiley:

Just told Debbie what you are up-to she is not impressed one bit, Bloody Linux why does he play with that rubbish instead of finishing putting up the shelf he started in the fall of 2011?
Nah not really.
Web site very to the point I like that :grin:

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Don't tease that old man. He has a hard life as it is already. Being married to a Windows enthusiast is not what a man wants, is it?

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I hate to do this (really) but this is going very #off-topic now...

Start a new thread if you want to tease @c00ter.

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Kernel comparison:

eugen@mj Linux 4.14.10-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2009          86        1633          26         288        1686
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1266 MB in  2.00 seconds = 633.23 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 352 MB in  3.01 seconds = 117.03 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.9.73-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
BOOTed with elevator=bfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2009          82        1651          26         276        1692
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1268 MB in  2.00 seconds = 633.95 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 296 MB in  3.02 seconds =  98.05 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.9.73-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
BOOTed with elevator=cfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2009          73        1659          26         275        1700
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1258 MB in  2.00 seconds = 629.00 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 294 MB in  3.01 seconds =  97.75 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.4.108-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
Booted with elevator=bfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2010          97        1636          26         276        1746
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1274 MB in  2.00 seconds = 636.66 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 308 MB in  3.01 seconds = 102.18 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.4.108-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
elevator=cfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2010          77        1653          29         279        1762
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1274 MB in  2.00 seconds = 637.38 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 308 MB in  3.01 seconds = 102.31 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.1.48-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
elevator=bfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2010          80        1671          26         259        1763
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1270 MB in  2.00 seconds = 635.36 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 310 MB in  3.01 seconds = 103.09 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 4.1.48-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
elevator=cfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2010          80        1671          26         259        1764
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1272 MB in  2.00 seconds = 635.95 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 308 MB in  3.01 seconds = 102.20 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 3.16.51-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
elevator=bfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2011          83        1669          26         258        1760
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1298 MB in  2.00 seconds = 649.39 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 296 MB in  3.02 seconds =  98.05 MB/sec

eugen@mj Linux 3.16.51-1-MANJARO i686 17.1 Hakoila
elevator=cfq
~ >>> free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           2011          91        1659          26         259        1751
Swap:             0           0           0
~ >>> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[sudo] password for eugen:

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   1292 MB in  2.00 seconds = 645.73 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 294 MB in  3.01 seconds =  97.76 MB/sec
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Thanks, Eugene! :smiley:

I told her I needed to snag it back to do some maintenance. Since it's New Year's Eve here, I better do it before she starts pouring the wine. :wink:

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