(RIP: Netty) "She's dead, Jim!"

My values above are from a 2GB RAM netbook running a bspwm, just started up. It is not the minimum for bspwm, there are some lightweight background services running like screenlocker, update-notifier (the one which uses dunst), NetworkManager. lxdm. It's good that you don't have a hat!
90MB might be from years ago.

eugen@mj Linux 4.4.108-1-MANJARO i686 17.1.0 Hakoila
~ >>> sudo ps_mem
[sudo] password for eugen:
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 64.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 111.5 KiB       rootmenu
 88.0 KiB +  52.0 KiB = 140.0 KiB       sleep
104.0 KiB +  40.5 KiB = 144.5 KiB       bspc
 92.0 KiB +  62.0 KiB = 154.0 KiB       cat
132.0 KiB +  63.0 KiB = 195.0 KiB       tail
 72.0 KiB + 125.0 KiB = 197.0 KiB       i3lock-wait-for (2)
124.0 KiB + 171.5 KiB = 295.5 KiB       mylime (3)
260.0 KiB + 119.5 KiB = 379.5 KiB       xtitle
340.0 KiB +  58.0 KiB = 398.0 KiB       sxhkd
308.0 KiB + 214.0 KiB = 522.0 KiB       udevil
288.0 KiB + 244.5 KiB = 532.5 KiB       update-checker
408.0 KiB + 140.5 KiB = 548.5 KiB       bspwm
316.0 KiB + 239.5 KiB = 555.5 KiB       default-termina
440.0 KiB + 188.0 KiB = 628.0 KiB       lxdm-binary
604.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 711.5 KiB       crond
552.0 KiB + 232.5 KiB = 784.5 KiB       devmon
436.0 KiB + 455.0 KiB = 891.0 KiB       gdbus
692.0 KiB + 240.0 KiB = 932.0 KiB       xev
504.0 KiB + 561.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB       tmux: client
356.0 KiB + 724.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB       bspwm-session (3)
804.0 KiB + 389.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB       lxdm-session
860.0 KiB + 433.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB       tmux: server
764.0 KiB + 558.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       systemd-logind
976.0 KiB + 423.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       dbus-launch (3)
824.0 KiB + 597.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB       (sd-pam)
  1.3 MiB + 119.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       awk
868.0 KiB + 565.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  1.1 MiB + 438.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB       ntpd
992.0 KiB + 684.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB       at-spi2-registryd
  1.3 MiB + 637.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       systemd-udevd
  1.3 MiB + 609.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       systemd-journald
  1.5 MiB + 518.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB       sudo
  1.5 MiB + 929.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB       st
  1.6 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   2.7 MiB       dbus-daemon (5)
  2.2 MiB + 878.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB       lemonbar
  3.9 MiB + 147.5 KiB =   4.0 MiB       wpa_supplicant
  1.4 MiB +   2.7 MiB =   4.1 MiB       systemd (2)
  2.9 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.3 MiB       zsh (2)
  3.3 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.7 MiB       conky-cli
  3.9 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   5.5 MiB       dunst
 10.9 MiB + 832.5 KiB =  11.7 MiB       polkitd
 10.1 MiB +   2.2 MiB =  12.3 MiB       NetworkManager
 11.4 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  12.5 MiB       compton
 14.8 MiB +   1.9 MiB =  16.7 MiB       Xorg
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                        112.3 MiB
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PS: For me it is a no-brainer to install the Manjaro bspwm edition - you can't get a better OS for less RAM. You can get a less usable OS for much more RAM, that's for sure. And the great Arch doesn't have such a well crafted bspwm setup.

It is a matter of two-three commands on Manjaro:

sudo pacman -R manjaro-xfce-settings
sudo pacman -S manjaro-bspwm-settings

manjaro-bspwm-settings should pull all bspwm as a dependency.
I would like to write cp -a /etc/skel/* ~/
see this


but that doesn't work, because dotfiles don't get copied.
Therefore copy the contents of /etc/skel in the file manager to your home folder, overwrite the existing ones if in doubt.

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She did it before, she can do it again. But sigh that was 2.5 years ago, and nothing stays the same. There will be some kernel-creep, so to speak.

-compton,-conky and you're in the 90's :wink:
Minus dunst and update-checker too and I think you might get in around 89 from those readings.

Indeed, in all fairness, XP used in turn to have its own "FLP" cut down version - which I think was even original-Pentium-rated..
But jesus christ (putting aside it takes 30 minutes to find such venerable software among the warez) there's a limit to how much backwards one should go before starting to humiliate himself.

Anyway, I'd hope in all these comparisons basic services like updater, lock and wallapaper were kept - otherwise it's kind of artificial.

I never run an updater. Never have, never will. If my computer needs updating, I'll tell it so. :wink:

I like feh for wallpaper and have some killer conkys (which are probably the old version, darn it). :smiley:

Anyway, I'd like to keep the side chat to a minimum (including my own), so those interested in i686 can find the data without sifting through too many trees. :smiley:

cp -a /from/. /to/

just replace your * with a .

cp -a /etc/skel/. ~/

:wink:

[Bonus points]
Check out shopt
You can run
shopt -s dotglob
Which should then make '*' include dotfiles. Nifty?

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I've got a bit of a virus sniffle --back in a couple days. Today's a travel-day to go get medicine. snort hack cough

Wow! What a shot in the butt does! Felling much better this morning...wife still sleeping...will begin again in a bit... :smiley:

Just started a new install of @philm's new i686 Xfce spin...

Interestingly, the "free" drivers boot was unsuccessful, but "nonfree" worked. Now installing...

You are the second one to report this... :thinking:

Think I'll do that...I'm running out of today's time, and don't wish to face the Wrath of Debbie if she doesn't have this back and working well by sundown...

Installing ,manjaro-jwm-settings

They don't install a complete JWM. You will need at least to install jwm additionally.

LOL! As I found out. Even then, it appears about as usable as a vanilla OB. Gonna try BPSWM next...

BSPWM profile & packages installed, booted into, copied /etc/skel over to /home, rebooted into BSPWM. About the only thing that works, is rebooting.

pacman.log to check what is missing.

I'm not familiar with BSPWM at all. While I look at pacman.log I'm d/l-ing 17.0.5 Bspwm & i3 spins...

Then install LDXE. It should work OOTB and coexist with any additional WM session (tested), only probelm might be with an empty menu and lxde-session-logout not working. Should be resolvable, but I don't remeber exactly how.

But if you install manjaro-lxde-setting you will need to remove some bloat like msm-notifier, pamac-tray etc.

In any case I can give my compton.conf from my EeePC.

Just doing some clean-up from within Xfce,,,

I've got a pretty good compton.conf from old OB installs. But let me finish what I'm dong first...

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LOL! No, the session is selectable, but bounces me back to the login. :wink:

What could I not do, using 17.0.5 i3 or bspwm ISOs? Using the same methods I did with the old 17.0.6 Xfce, using @jonathon's methods?

Is there anything with default session in .xinitrc? Comment out that line if you use a DM - I assume LightDM from Xfce install.

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