[Testing Update] 2019-03-14 - Kernels, Plasma, Deepin, Pamac, Python, Ruby

I've found that there is often a two minute delay in a restart after a major update regardless of the kernel in use. So far it's affected 4.19, 4.20 and 5.0 and IIRC, is caused by a stop job for session 2 running. However, it only happens on the first reboot or shut down after the update. I always assumed it was because I update and reboot from a tty and don't log out of the GUI session.

yeah, that's nothing unusual but it's not just after an update this time. It's happened again since when I've not applied any updates.

Don't want to bother but if this hits stable without a Compiz rebuild, all the Compiz users will end up with a desktop without window borders. :wink:

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Sounds liberating. :grin:

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Well, that's one way to view it. :smiley: But on a serious note, if somebody with GitLab access could bump the revision and trigger a rebuild for the compiz-manjaro package, it would be great!

Some extra stuff bois.
https://lists.manjaro.org/pipermail/manjaro-packages/Week-of-Mon-20190318/021742.html
https://lists.manjaro.org/pipermail/manjaro-packages/Week-of-Mon-20190318/021743.html

The .install for pamac-common has been reworked a little bit. @fredb74

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@philm Good news, looks like the transition is done correctly and that the old conf file is restored successfully now. I tried in VM with Pamac GTK, Pamac CLI and pacman, in three different editions, jumping from Stable to Testing.

Manjaro Gnome - Pamac GTK
Synchronizing package databases...
Starting full system upgrade...
Resolving dependencies...
Checking inter-conflicts...
Downloading glib2 (2.60.0-1-x86_64)...
Downloading e2fsprogs (1.45.0-1-x86_64)...
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Checking keyring...
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Running pre-transaction hooks...
Remove Firefox Distribution Settings
Save Linux kernel modules
Removing pamac (7.3.4-2)...
/etc/pamac.conf installed as /etc/pamac.conf.pacsave.
Upgrading glib2 (2.58.3-1 -> 2.60.0-1)...
Upgrading e2fsprogs (1.44.6-1 -> 1.45.0-1)...
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Upgrading dconf (0.30.1-1 -> 0.32.0-1)...
Upgrading gtk-update-icon-cache (3.24.5-1 -> 3.24.7-1)...
Upgrading tdb (1.3.16-1 -> 1.3.18-1)...
Upgrading glib-networking (2.58.0-1 -> 2.60.0.1-1)...
Upgrading libsoup (2.64.2-1 -> 2.66.0-1)...
Upgrading gtk3 (3.24.5-1 -> 3.24.7-1)...
Upgrading baobab (3.30.0-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...
Upgrading double-conversion (3.1.1-1 -> 3.1.4-1)...
Upgrading file-roller (3.30.1-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...
Upgrading nspr (4.20-1 -> 4.21-1)...
Upgrading firefox (65.0.2-1 -> 66.0-0)...
Installing gtksourceview4 (4.0.3-1)...
Upgrading gobject-introspection-runtime (1.58.3-1 -> 1.60.0-1)...
Upgrading gedit (3.30.2-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...
Upgrading geocode-glib (3.26.0-1 -> 3.26.1-1)...
Upgrading upower (0.99.9-1 -> 0.99.10-1)...
Upgrading libwbclient (4.9.4-2 -> 4.9.5-1)...
Upgrading talloc (2.1.14-1 -> 2.1.16-1)...
Upgrading tevent (1:0.9.37-1 -> 1:0.9.39-1)...
Upgrading ldb (1:1.4.3-1 -> 1:1.4.6-1)...
Upgrading smbclient (4.9.4-2 -> 4.9.5-1)...
Upgrading lua52-lpeg (1.0.1-2 -> 1.0.2-1)...
Upgrading grilo (0.3.6-1 -> 0.3.7-1)...
Upgrading webkit2gtk (2.22.7-1 -> 2.24.0-1)...
Upgrading gnome-control-center (3.30.3-1 -> 3.30.3+4+g26287234b-1)...
Upgrading qt5-base (5.12.1-2.1 -> 5.12.1-3.1)...
Upgrading kvantum-manjaro (0.12.0-1 -> 0.13.0-1)...
Upgrading lib32-pcre (8.42-1 -> 8.43-1)...
Upgrading lib32-glib2 (2.58.3-1 -> 2.60.0-1)...
Upgrading libdazzle (3.30.2-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...
Upgrading libgexiv2 (0.10.8-2 -> 0.12.0-1)...
Upgrading protobuf (3.6.1.3-1 -> 3.7.0-1)...
Upgrading libphonenumber (8.10.1-2 -> 8.10.6-1)...
Upgrading linux419 (4.19.28-1 -> 4.19.30-1)...
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Upgrading ntp (4.2.8.p12-2 -> 4.2.8.p13-2)...
Installing pamac-common (7.3.5-3)...
Configuring pamac-common...
==> An authentication agent is required
    Cinnamon, Deepin, GNOME, GNOME Flashback, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE and Xfce
    have an authentication agent already.
    See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#Authentication_agents
    for other desktop environments.
e[1;1me[1;32m==>e[1;0me[1;1m You had an old /etc/pamac.conf.pacsave file. We restore it for you.e[1;0m
e[1;1me[1;32m==>e[1;0me[1;1m You can find your new pamac.conf saved as `/etc/pamac-new-03191128.conf`e[1;0m
Installing pamac-cli (7.3.5-2)...
Installing pamac-gtk (7.3.5-2)...
Configuring pamac-gtk...
==> Enable Pamac Updates Indicator via
    Gnome Tweak
Upgrading terminus-font (4.46-1.1 -> 4.47-2)...
Upgrading udisks2 (2.8.1-1 -> 2.8.2-1)...
Upgrading yelp-xsl (3.30.1-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...
Running post-transaction hooks...
Updating linux419 module dependencies...
Updating linux419 initcpios...
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux419.preset: 'default'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
==> Starting build: 4.19.30-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [resume]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
==> Image generation successful
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux419.preset: 'fallback'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img -S autodetect
==> Starting build: 4.19.30-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [resume]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img
==> Image generation successful
Updating Grub-Bootmenu
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found theme: /usr/share/grub/themes/manjaro/theme.txt
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/intel-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
Found initrd fallback image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+/memtest.bin
done
Copy Firefox Distribution Settings
Updating fontconfig cache...
Updating GIO module cache...
Compiling GSettings XML schema files...
Probing GTK3 input method modules...
Updating icon theme caches...
Restore Linux kernel modules

e[1;1me[1;32m==>e[1;0me[1;1m Warning:
	 -> Kernel has been updated. Modules of the current kernel
	 -> have been backed up so you can continue to use your
	 -> computer. However, the new kernel will only work 
	 -> at next boot.
	e[1;0m
	e[1;0m
Reloading system manager configuration...
Creating system user accounts...
Reloading device manager configuration...
Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
Updating the info directory file...
Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
Updating the MIME type database...
Updating X fontdir indices...
Transaction successfully finished.

gnome-pamac-conf-file

Manjaro Cinnamon - Pamac CLI
[ami@mjrocin Desktop]$ ls /etc | grep pa
apparmor.d
libpaper.d
pacman.conf
pacman.d
pacman-mirrors.conf
pamac.conf
pamac.conf.pacnew
pam.d
papersize
passwd
passwd-
vdpau_wrapper.cfg
wpa_supplicant
[ami@mjrocin Desktop]$ pamac upgrade
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.manjaro.pamac.commit ====
Authentication is required
Authenticating as: Ami (ami)
Password: 
==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ====
Synchronizing package databases...
Refreshing community.db...
Refreshing multilib.db...                                                       
Starting full system upgrade...                                                 
Resolving dependencies...
Checking inter-conflicts...
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  atk                                2.32-1       (2.30.0-1)     extra      355.2 kB
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  dconf                              0.32.0-1     (0.30.1-1)     extra      91.6 kB
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  double-conversion                  3.1.4-1      (3.1.1-1)      extra      52.1 kB
  file-roller                        3.32.0-1     (3.30.1-1)     extra      889.1 kB
  nspr                               4.21-1       (4.20-1)       core       193.8 kB
  firefox                            66.0-0       (65.0.2-1)     extra      48.8 MB
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  qt5-base                           5.12.1-3.1   (5.12.1-2.1)   extra      12.8 MB
  kvantum-manjaro                    0.13.0-1     (0.12.0-1)     community  77.6 kB
  talloc                             2.1.16-1     (2.1.14-1)     extra      57.1 kB
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  libgadu                            1.12.2-8     (1.12.2-6)     extra      98.2 kB
  libgexiv2                          0.12.0-1     (0.10.8-2)     community  63.6 kB
  libmatroska                        1.5.0-1      (1.4.9-1)      extra      138.3 kB
  libwbclient                        4.9.5-1      (4.9.4-2)      extra      34.1 kB
  linux414                           4.14.107-1   (4.14.105-1)   core       64.3 MB
  linux414-virtualbox-guest-modules  6.0.4-8      (6.0.4-7)      extra      214.8 kB
  lua52-lpeg                         1.0.2-1      (1.0.1-2)      extra      23.8 kB
  ntp                                4.2.8.p13-2  (4.2.8.p12-2)  extra      1.8 MB
  python-psutil                      5.6.0-1      (5.5.0-1)      community  379.2 kB
  smbclient                          4.9.5-1      (4.9.4-2)      extra      6.1 MB
  samba                              4.9.5-1      (4.9.4-2)      extra      6.3 MB
  terminus-font                      4.47-2       (4.46-1.1)     community  974.1 kB
  udisks2                            2.8.2-1      (2.8.1-1)      extra      897.0 kB
  udiskie                            1.7.7-1      (1.7.5-2)      community  122.8 kB
  upower                             0.99.10-1    (0.99.9-1)     extra      170.1 kB
  vlc                                3.0.6-9      (3.0.6-8)      extra      11.2 MB
  webkit2gtk                         2.24.0-1     (2.22.7-1)     extra      17.8 MB
  yelp-xsl                           3.32.0-1     (3.30.1-1)     extra      241.6 kB
To install (3):
  pamac-common                       7.3.5-3                     extra      369.2 kB
  pamac-cli                          7.3.5-2                     extra      50.5 kB
  pamac-gtk                          7.3.5-2                     extra      117.9 kB
To remove (1):
  pamac                              7.3.4-2                     

Total download size: 194.7 MB
Total installed size: -34.4 MB
Total removed size: 3.4 MB
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Upgrading geocode-glib (3.26.0-1 -> 3.26.1-1)...                                                                                                                                                             [17/49]
Upgrading gobject-introspection-runtime (1.58.3-1 -> 1.60.0-1)...                                                                                                                                            [18/49]
Upgrading qt5-base (5.12.1-2.1 -> 5.12.1-3.1)...                                                                                                                                                             [19/49]
Upgrading kvantum-manjaro (0.12.0-1 -> 0.13.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                          [20/49]
Upgrading talloc (2.1.14-1 -> 2.1.16-1)...                                                                                                                                                                   [21/49]
Upgrading tevent (1:0.9.37-1 -> 1:0.9.39-1)...                                                                                                                                                               [22/49]
Upgrading ldb (1:1.4.3-1 -> 1:1.4.6-1)...                                                                                                                                                                    [23/49]
Upgrading lib32-pcre (8.42-1 -> 8.43-1)...                                                                                                                                                                   [24/49]
Upgrading lib32-glib2 (2.58.3-1 -> 2.60.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                              [25/49]
Upgrading libebml (1.3.6-1 -> 1.3.7-1)...                                                                                                                                                                    [26/49]
Upgrading protobuf (3.6.1.3-1 -> 3.7.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                                 [27/49]
Upgrading protobuf-c (1.3.1-1 -> 1.3.1-2)...                                                                                                                                                                 [28/49]
Upgrading libgadu (1.12.2-6 -> 1.12.2-8)...                                                                                                                                                                  [29/49]
Upgrading libgexiv2 (0.10.8-2 -> 0.12.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                                [30/49]
Upgrading libmatroska (1.4.9-1 -> 1.5.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                                [31/49]
Upgrading libwbclient (4.9.4-2 -> 4.9.5-1)...                                                                                                                                                                [32/49]
Upgrading linux414 (4.14.105-1 -> 4.14.107-1)...                                                                                                                                                             [33/49]
Upgrading linux414-virtualbox-guest-modules (6.0.4-7 -> 6.0.4-8)...                                                                                                                                          [34/49]
Upgrading lua52-lpeg (1.0.1-2 -> 1.0.2-1)...                                                                                                                                                                 [35/49]
Upgrading ntp (4.2.8.p12-2 -> 4.2.8.p13-2)...                                                                                                                                                                [36/49]
Installing pamac-common (7.3.5-3)...                                                                                                                                                                         [37/49]
Configuring pamac-common...
==> An authentication agent is required
    Cinnamon, Deepin, GNOME, GNOME Flashback, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE and Xfce
    have an authentication agent already.
    See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#Authentication_agents
    for other desktop environments.
==> You had an old /etc/pamac.conf.pacsave file. We restore it for you.
==> You can find your new pamac.conf saved as `/etc/pamac-new-03190315.conf`
Installing pamac-cli (7.3.5-2)...                                                                                                                                                                            [38/49]
Installing pamac-gtk (7.3.5-2)...                                                                                                                                                                            [39/49]
Configuring pamac-gtk...
==> Enable Pamac Updates Indicator via
    Gnome Tweak
Upgrading python-psutil (5.5.0-1 -> 5.6.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                              [40/49]
Upgrading smbclient (4.9.4-2 -> 4.9.5-1)...                                                                                                                                                                  [41/49]
Upgrading samba (4.9.4-2 -> 4.9.5-1)...                                                                                                                                                                      [42/49]
Upgrading terminus-font (4.46-1.1 -> 4.47-2)...                                                                                                                                                              [43/49]
Upgrading udisks2 (2.8.1-1 -> 2.8.2-1)...                                                                                                                                                                    [44/49]
Upgrading udiskie (1.7.5-2 -> 1.7.7-1)...                                                                                                                                                                    [45/49]
Upgrading upower (0.99.9-1 -> 0.99.10-1)...                                                                                                                                                                  [46/49]
Upgrading vlc (3.0.6-8 -> 3.0.6-9)...                                                                                                                                                                        [47/49]
Upgrading webkit2gtk (2.22.7-1 -> 2.24.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                               [48/49]
Upgrading yelp-xsl (3.30.1-1 -> 3.32.0-1)...                                                                                                                                                                 [49/49]
Running post-transaction hooks...
Updating linux414 module dependencies...                                                                                                                                                                      [1/19]
Updating linux414 initcpios...                                                                                                                                                                                [2/19]
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux414.preset: 'default'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.14-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64.img
==> Starting build: 4.14.107-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [resume]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
  -> Running build hook: [fsck]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64.img
==> Image generation successful
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux414.preset: 'fallback'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.14-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64-fallback.img -S autodetect
==> Starting build: 4.14.107-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [resume]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
  -> Running build hook: [fsck]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64-fallback.img
==> Image generation successful
Updating Grub-Bootmenu                                                                                                                                                                                        [3/19]
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found theme: /usr/share/grub/themes/manjaro/theme.txt
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.14-x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/intel-ucode.img /boot/amd-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64.img
Found initrd fallback image: /boot/initramfs-4.14-x86_64-fallback.img
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+/memtest.bin
done
Copy Firefox Distribution Settings                                                                                                                                                                            [4/19]
Updating fontconfig cache...                                                                                                                                                                                  [5/19]
Updating GIO module cache...                                                                                                                                                                                  [6/19]
Compiling GSettings XML schema files...                                                                                                                                                                       [7/19]
No such key “panels-resizable” in schema “org.cinnamon” as specified in override file “/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/99_manjaro-cinnamon.gschema.override”; ignoring override for this key.
No such key “use-transparent-background” in schema “org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Profile” as specified in override file “/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/99_manjaro-cinnamon.gschema.override”; ignoring override for this key.
No such key “background-transparency-percent” in schema “org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Profile” as specified in override file “/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/99_manjaro-cinnamon.gschema.override”; ignoring override for this key.
Probing GTK3 input method modules...                                                                                                                                                                          [8/19]
Updating icon theme caches...                                                                                                                                                                                 [9/19]
Reloading system manager configuration...                                                                                                                                                                    [10/19]
Creating system user accounts...                                                                                                                                                                             [11/19]
Creating temporary files...                                                                                                                                                                                  [12/19]
Reloading device manager configuration...                                                                                                                                                                    [13/19]
Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...                                                                                                                                                                               [14/19]
Updating the info directory file...                                                                                                                                                                          [15/19]
Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...                                                                                                                                                                 [16/19]
Updating the MIME type database...                                                                                                                                                                           [17/19]
Updating the vlc plugin cache...                                                                                                                                                                             [18/19]
Updating X fontdir indices...                                                                                                                                                                                [19/19]
Transaction successfully finished.
[ami@mjrocin Desktop]$ ls /etc | grep pa
apparmor.d
libpaper.d
pacman.conf
pacman.d
pacman-mirrors.conf
pamac.conf
pamac.conf.pacnew
pamac-new-03190315.conf
pam.d
papersize
passwd
passwd-
vdpau_wrapper.cfg
wpa_supplicant
[ami@mjrocin Desktop]$ 
Manjaro XFCE - pacman
[ami@xfcenew Bureau]$ ls /etc | grep pa
apparmor.d
libpaper.d
pacman.conf
pacman.d
pacman-mirrors.conf
pamac.conf
pam.d
papersize
passwd
passwd-
vdpau_wrapper.cfg
wpa_supplicant
[ami@xfcenew Bureau]$ sudo pacman -Syu
[sudo] Mot de passe de ami : 
:: Synchronisation des bases de données de paquets…
 core                     147,4 KiB   465K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 extra                   1866,8 KiB   461K/s 00:04 [######################] 100%
 community                  5,2 MiB   468K/s 00:11 [######################] 100%
 multilib                 183,7 KiB   525K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
:: Début de la mise à jour complète du système…
:: Remplacer pamac par extra/pamac-gtk ? [O/n] o
résolution des dépendances…
recherche des conflits entre paquets…

Paquets (55) at-spi2-atk-2.32.0-1  at-spi2-core-2.32.0-1  atk-2.32-1
             dconf-0.32.0-1  double-conversion-3.1.4-1  e2fsprogs-1.45.0-1
             file-roller-3.32.0-1  firefox-66.0-0  firefox-i18n-en-us-66.0-0
             firefox-i18n-fr-66.0-0  geocode-glib-3.26.1-1
             glib-networking-2.60.0.1-1  glib2-2.60.0-1  glib2-docs-2.60.0-1
             gobject-introspection-runtime-1.60.0-1
             gtk-update-icon-cache-3.24.7-1  gtk3-classic-3.24.7-1
             kvantum-manjaro-0.13.0-1  ldb-1:1.4.6-1  lib32-dconf-0.32.0-1
             lib32-glib2-2.60.0-1  lib32-gtk3-classic-3.24.7-1
             lib32-pcre-8.43-1  libebml-1.3.7-1  libgadu-1.12.2-8
             libgexiv2-0.12.0-1  libmatroska-1.5.0-1  libsoup-2.66.0-1
             libva-vdpau-driver-0.7.4-4  libwbclient-4.9.5-1
             linux419-4.19.30-1  linux419-virtualbox-guest-modules-6.0.4-12
             matcha-gtk-theme-20190309-1  nspr-4.21-1  ntp-4.2.8.p13-2
             pamac-7.3.4-2 [suppression]  pamac-cli-7.3.5-2
             pamac-common-7.3.5-3  pamac-gtk-7.3.5-2  protobuf-3.7.0-1
             protobuf-c-1.3.1-2  python-psutil-5.6.0-1  qt5-base-5.12.1-3.1
             samba-4.9.5-1  smbclient-4.9.5-1  talloc-2.1.16-1  tdb-1.3.18-1
             terminus-font-4.47-2  tevent-1:0.9.39-1  udiskie-1.7.7-1
             udisks2-2.8.2-1  upower-0.99.10-1  vlc-3.0.6-9
             webkit2gtk-2.24.0-1  yelp-xsl-3.32.0-1

Taille totale du téléchargement :  199,67 MiB
Taille totale installée :        738,22 MiB
Taille de mise à jour nette :    -35,55 MiB

:: Procéder à l’installation ? [O/n] o
:: Récupération des paquets…
 glib2-2.60.0-1-x86_64      2,4 MiB   519K/s 00:05 [######################] 100%
 e2fsprogs-1.45.0-1-...  1054,7 KiB   524K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
 nspr-4.21-1-x86_64       189,2 KiB   526K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 glib2-docs-2.60.0-1...  1379,7 KiB   523K/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 linux419-4.19.30-1-...    75,5 MiB   502K/s 02:34 [######################] 100%
 at-spi2-core-2.32.0...   231,7 KiB   527K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 atk-2.32-1-x86_64        346,9 KiB   526K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 at-spi2-atk-2.32.0-...    55,4 KiB   503K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 dconf-0.32.0-1-x86_64     89,5 KiB   526K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 double-conversion-3...    50,9 KiB   565K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 gtk-update-icon-cac...    13,8 KiB   602K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 tdb-1.3.18-1-x86_64       67,8 KiB   538K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 glib-networking-2.6...    95,4 KiB   530K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libsoup-2.66.0-1-x86_64  510,3 KiB   524K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 gtk3-classic-3.24.7...     4,7 MiB   455K/s 00:11 [######################] 100%
 file-roller-3.32.0-...   868,2 KiB   325K/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 firefox-66.0-0-x86_64     46,5 MiB   479K/s 01:39 [######################] 100%
 firefox-i18n-en-us-...   364,3 KiB   523K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 firefox-i18n-fr-66....   434,8 KiB   524K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 geocode-glib-3.26.1...    88,4 KiB   533K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 gobject-introspecti...   176,1 KiB   529K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 qt5-base-5.12.1-3.1...    12,2 MiB   523K/s 00:24 [######################] 100%
 talloc-2.1.16-1-x86_64    55,8 KiB   536K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 tevent-1:0.9.39-1-x...    48,3 KiB   537K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 ldb-1:1.4.6-1-x86_64     189,7 KiB   527K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libebml-1.3.7-1-x86_64    64,0 KiB   533K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 protobuf-3.7.0-1-x86_64 1831,4 KiB   523K/s 00:04 [######################] 100%
 protobuf-c-1.3.1-2-...    90,6 KiB   460K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libgadu-1.12.2-8-x86_64   95,9 KiB   533K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libmatroska-1.5.0-1...   135,1 KiB   526K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libva-vdpau-driver-...    37,0 KiB   529K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libwbclient-4.9.5-1...    33,3 KiB   528K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 linux419-virtualbox...    30,9 KiB   542K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 ntp-4.2.8.p13-2-x86_64  1797,7 KiB   523K/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 pamac-common-7.3.5-...   360,6 KiB   523K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 pamac-cli-7.3.5-2-x...    49,3 KiB   530K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 pamac-gtk-7.3.5-2-x...   115,1 KiB   533K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 smbclient-4.9.5-1-x...     5,9 MiB   523K/s 00:11 [######################] 100%
 samba-4.9.5-1-x86_64       6,0 MiB   481K/s 00:13 [######################] 100%
 udisks2-2.8.2-1-x86_64   876,0 KiB   524K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
 upower-0.99.10-1-x86_64  166,1 KiB   524K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 vlc-3.0.6-9-x86_64        10,7 MiB   520K/s 00:21 [######################] 100%
 webkit2gtk-2.24.0-1...    17,0 MiB   511K/s 00:34 [######################] 100%
 yelp-xsl-3.32.0-1-any    235,9 KiB   528K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 kvantum-manjaro-0.1...    75,8 KiB   474K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libgexiv2-0.12.0-1-...    62,2 KiB   531K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 matcha-gtk-theme-20...  1269,4 KiB   523K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
 python-psutil-5.6.0...   370,3 KiB   524K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 terminus-font-4.47-...   951,2 KiB   502K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
 udiskie-1.7.7-1-any      119,9 KiB   531K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 lib32-pcre-8.43-1-x...   337,4 KiB   525K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 lib32-glib2-2.60.0-...  1039,9 KiB   523K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
 lib32-dconf-0.32.0-...    49,5 KiB   532K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 lib32-gtk3-classic-...     2,6 MiB   523K/s 00:05 [######################] 100%
(54/54) vérification des clés dans le trousseau    [######################] 100%
(54/54) vérification de l’intégrité des paquets    [######################] 100%
(54/54) chargement des fichiers des paquets        [######################] 100%
(54/54) analyse des conflits entre fichiers        [######################] 100%
(55/55) vérification de l’espace disque dispon...  [######################] 100%
:: Exécution des crochets de pré-transaction…
(1/1) Remove Firefox Distribution Settings
:: Traitement des changements du paquet…
(1/1) désinstallation de pamac                     [######################] 100%
avertissement : /etc/pamac.conf enregistré en tant que /etc/pamac.conf.pacsave
( 1/54) mise à jour de glib2                       [######################] 100%
( 2/54) mise à jour de e2fsprogs                   [######################] 100%
( 3/54) mise à jour de at-spi2-core                [######################] 100%
( 4/54) mise à jour de atk                         [######################] 100%
( 5/54) mise à jour de at-spi2-atk                 [######################] 100%
( 6/54) mise à jour de dconf                       [######################] 100%
( 7/54) mise à jour de double-conversion           [######################] 100%
( 8/54) mise à jour de gtk-update-icon-cache       [######################] 100%
( 9/54) mise à jour de tdb                         [######################] 100%
(10/54) mise à jour de glib-networking             [######################] 100%
(11/54) mise à jour de libsoup                     [######################] 100%
(12/54) mise à jour de gtk3-classic                [######################] 100%

 ==> For detailed information about gtk-classic
  -> Please consult /usr/share/gtk-3.0/README.md
  
  
(13/54) mise à jour de file-roller                 [######################] 100%
(14/54) mise à jour de nspr                        [######################] 100%
(15/54) mise à jour de firefox                     [######################] 100%
(16/54) mise à jour de firefox-i18n-en-us          [######################] 100%
(17/54) mise à jour de firefox-i18n-fr             [######################] 100%
(18/54) mise à jour de geocode-glib                [######################] 100%
(19/54) mise à jour de glib2-docs                  [######################] 100%
(20/54) mise à jour de gobject-introspection-r...  [######################] 100%
(21/54) mise à jour de qt5-base                    [######################] 100%
(22/54) mise à jour de kvantum-manjaro             [######################] 100%
(23/54) mise à jour de talloc                      [######################] 100%
(24/54) mise à jour de tevent                      [######################] 100%
(25/54) mise à jour de ldb                         [######################] 100%
(26/54) mise à jour de lib32-pcre                  [######################] 100%
(27/54) mise à jour de lib32-glib2                 [######################] 100%
(28/54) mise à jour de lib32-dconf                 [######################] 100%
(29/54) mise à jour de lib32-gtk3-classic          [######################] 100%
(30/54) mise à jour de libebml                     [######################] 100%
(31/54) mise à jour de protobuf                    [######################] 100%
(32/54) mise à jour de protobuf-c                  [######################] 100%
(33/54) mise à jour de libgadu                     [######################] 100%
(34/54) mise à jour de libgexiv2                   [######################] 100%
(35/54) mise à jour de libmatroska                 [######################] 100%
(36/54) mise à jour de libva-vdpau-driver          [######################] 100%
(37/54) mise à jour de libwbclient                 [######################] 100%
(38/54) mise à jour de linux419                    [######################] 100%
(39/54) mise à jour de linux419-virtualbox-gue...  [######################] 100%
(40/54) mise à jour de matcha-gtk-theme            [######################] 100%
(41/54) mise à jour de ntp                         [######################] 100%
(42/54) installation de pamac-common               [######################] 100%
==> An authentication agent is required
    Cinnamon, Deepin, GNOME, GNOME Flashback, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE and Xfce
    have an authentication agent already.
    See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#Authentication_agents
    for other desktop environments.
==> You had an old /etc/pamac.conf.pacsave file. We restore it for you.
==> You can find your new pamac.conf saved as `/etc/pamac-new-03193407.conf`
(43/54) installation de pamac-cli                  [######################] 100%
(44/54) installation de pamac-gtk                  [######################] 100%
==> Enable Pamac Updates Indicator via
    Gnome Tweak
(45/54) mise à jour de python-psutil               [######################] 100%
(46/54) mise à jour de smbclient                   [######################] 100%
(47/54) mise à jour de samba                       [######################] 100%
(48/54) mise à jour de terminus-font               [######################] 100%
(49/54) mise à jour de udisks2                     [######################] 100%
(50/54) mise à jour de udiskie                     [######################] 100%
(51/54) mise à jour de upower                      [######################] 100%
(52/54) mise à jour de vlc                         [######################] 100%
(53/54) mise à jour de webkit2gtk                  [######################] 100%
Nouvelles dépendances optionnelles pour webkit2gtk
    gst-plugins-bad: media decoding [installé]
(54/54) mise à jour de yelp-xsl                    [######################] 100%
:: Exécution des crochets de post-transaction…
( 1/22) Updating linux419 module dependencies...
( 2/22) Updating linux419 initcpios...
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux419.preset: 'default'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
==> Starting build: 4.19.30-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
==> Image generation successful
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux419.preset: 'fallback'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64 -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img -S autodetect
==> Starting build: 4.19.30-1-MANJARO
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [keymap]
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating gzip-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img
==> Image generation successful
( 3/22) Updating Grub-Bootmenu
Création du fichier de configuration GRUB…
Thème trouvé : /usr/share/grub/themes/manjaro/theme.txt
Image Linux trouvée : /boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64
Image mémoire initiale trouvée : /boot/intel-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64.img
Found initrd fallback image: /boot/initramfs-4.19-x86_64-fallback.img
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+/memtest.bin
fait
( 4/22) Copy Firefox Distribution Settings
( 5/22) Updating 32-bit fontconfig cache...
( 6/22) Updating fontconfig cache...
( 7/22) Updating 32-bit GIO module cache...
( 8/22) Updating GIO module cache...
( 9/22) Compiling GSettings XML schema files...
(10/22) Probing 32-bit GTK3 input method modules...
(11/22) Probing GTK3 input method modules...
(12/22) Updating icon theme caches...
(13/22) Reloading system manager configuration...
(14/22) Creating system user accounts...
(15/22) Creating temporary files...
(16/22) Reloading device manager configuration...
(17/22) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(18/22) Updating the info directory file...
(19/22) Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
(20/22) Updating the MIME type database...
(21/22) Updating the vlc plugin cache...
(22/22) Updating X fontdir indices...
[ami@xfcenew Bureau]$ ls /etc | grep pa
apparmor.d
libpaper.d
pacman.conf
pacman.d
pacman-mirrors.conf
pamac.conf
pamac-new-03193407.conf
pam.d
papersize
passwd
passwd-
vdpau_wrapper.cfg
wpa_supplicant
[ami@xfcenew Bureau]$ 

Looks like we are going somewhere for this issue, at last. :slight_smile:

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pamac-gtk and pamac-dev conflicts

need to make pamac dev seperate also.
manjaro application utility also needs update to use either pamac-gtk or pamac-qt

Same for me too. Done a migration using pamac GUI, and it works. Thanks @philm!

Third time’s a charm :slight_smile:

Looking at this gitlab repository, pamac-dev is kinda asleep now. Last commit? Sometime back in december 2018.

Just ask @philm to add it in conflicts() line in pamac PKGBUILD.

I have exactly the same delay issue each time I shutdown or reboot with kernel 5. Do not know how to begin to debug this.. Could you found something in your grub command?

I will look into it when I have some time and the laptop is charged sufficiently again but honestly I'm in no hurry to so please feel free to also investigate it as best you can. I don't really think it is the grub commands because the same would happen with 4.20 and it didn't (5.0 exists partly because Linus ran out of fingers to count build 4.20 numbers with). That is the angle I will investigate anyway as I'm at a loss to what else it could be at present. I have KSystemLog to view any error messages that crop up from the kernel and other logs but unless I missed something there's nothing in there.

I have solution for now as far as I'm concerned by going back to 4.19 LTS and suggest you do the same if your hardware works okay with it.

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Yes, I'll do this. I'll share if I can find something, and I agree, meanwhile 4.19 LTS is working fine.

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@anon71843593 and @pierrep56 -- looks like both laptops on the new kernel, may while be on battery power which leads me guessing at module iwlwifi -- possible issue with acpi/rfkill/dhcp? I use to get a stop job when I forgot to disconnect from my vpn and networkmanager has been blamed for many of these stop jobs. Do you have custom dhcp settings (other than modifying your DNS IPs) and how are they implemented?

A couple items I would try while on kernel 5.0.3 (latest stable):

  1. setup a debugging shutdown script that may give clues as to the hangup.
  2. try disabling networking entirely, reboot, and see what happens.

Note: if you're going to modify the start/stop timeouts in /etc/systemd/system.conf -- be aware this is generally discouraged as the timers encourage units to start/stop (theoretically) gracefully, particularly database applications that may use a lot of disk I/O at these particular times.

I am not on battery power, just plugged in ( and battery also full charged), and no special custom dhcp setting for me. For now I am OK with kernel 4.19. I' ll try the next stable release of the 5 serie.
And by the way... I just got the same behavior with the 5 kernel on a desktop tower....

I have this long time, and seems that sometimes some process can't be killed during reboot/shutdown.
Perhaps systemd issue? dunno...

have that "problem" with 5.0 on my desktop, too, but only every fourth or fifth shutdown so no big issue.

Thanks will try disabling WiFi and if that doesn't work will do the script. I've bookmarked your post so I know where to find it

WiFi isn't the issue, I've tried shutting down with it disabled as well now and it happened anyway.

also, only network changes are DNS and no tinkering with systemd timings.

acpi settings in grub config have been ruled out as well now. I've now upgraded to 5.0.3 after trying these steps and it seems to be okay so far (a couple of restarts and shutdowns to test with fingers and toes crossed). I'll try that script if it happens again with 5.0.3 at some point. Thanks for the input, hopefully it's a bit more stable than every fourth or fifth shutdown rearing it's ugly head because that doesn't happen with my desktop.

EDIT - that freedesktop site is unreachable at present, i'll take a look at the script another time. I just wanted to see it

Good to know! Can you share which specific acpi settings you ruled out from grub ?

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