W7 and Manjaro partitioning issue

I have an Acer ASpire 3820 with Windows 7 installed. Three primary partitions already.
When planning the partitioning I've found that Windows will only let me shrink the C: partition and leave ~76Gb free, meanwhile Manjaro installer would shrink it to 232Gb and leave another 232Gb for installation.
So,I can only create one primary partition that would have to be extended, and logic partitions there for what I've found out during research.
What partition plan do you recommend me in this situation? Which tools should I use and which steps should I follow?
I can link screenshots if needed

Can you boot off the live media and run these two commands from the terminal and share the output

inxi -Fxxxzdp

These will give us some information to make a better recommendation.

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Ahm,I'm sorry but my only Operating System installed is Windows 7. Can I get that info on some tool as the ones on Hirens Boot CD?

From the Manjaro live boot disk.

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Okay. I've got the liveCD on a usb stick so here you have them:

[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ lsblk
loop0    7:0    0  62.4M  1 loop /run/miso/sfs/livefs
loop1    7:1    0 281.8M  1 loop /run/miso/sfs/mhwdfs
loop2    7:2    0 954.6M  1 loop /run/miso/sfs/desktopfs
loop3    7:3    0 432.5M  1 loop /run/miso/sfs/rootfs
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0  12.7G  0 part 
├─sda2   8:2    0   100M  0 part 
└─sda3   8:3    0   453G  0 part 
sdb      8:16   1  14.9G  0 disk 
└─sdb1   8:17   1  14.9G  0 part /run/miso/bootmnt

[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ inxi -Fxxxzdp
  Host: manjaro Kernel: 4.14.52-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 8.1.1 Desktop: N/A dm: lightdm 1.26.0 
  Distro: Manjaro Linux 17.1.11 Hakoila 
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire 3820 v: V1.19 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Acer model: JM31_CP v: V1.19 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix v: 1.19 
  date: 10/27/2010 
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.1 Wh condition: 49.8/64.8 Wh (77%) volts: 11.5/10.8 
  model: Panasonic AS10B5E type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3 M 370 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Nehalem rev: 5 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19157 
  Speed: 1430 MHz min/max: 933/2399 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1351 2: 1068 
  3: 1378 4: 1408 
  Card-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0046 
  Display: x11 server: N/A driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
  resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.1.3 
  direct render: Yes 
  Card-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:3b56 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.14.52-1-MANJARO 
  Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v1.0 Gigabit Ethernet driver: atl1c 
  v: port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 1969:1073 
  IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k 
  v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002e 
  IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  HDD Total Size: 480.68 GiB used: 1.75 GiB (0.4%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS545050B9A300 size: 465.76 GiB 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: C60F scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive 
  size: 14.92 GiB serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
  Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found. 
  ID-1: / size: 2.65 GiB used: 94.3 MiB (3.5%) fs: overlay dev: ERR-102 
  ID-2: /run/miso/bootmnt size: 14.90 GiB used: 1.75 GiB (11.7%) fs: vfat 
  dev: /dev/sdb1 
  System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: 32.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
  Processes: 158 Uptime: 11m Memory: 3.54 GiB used: 1.02 GiB (28.9%) 
  Init: systemd v: 239 Compilers: gcc: 8.1.1 Shell: bash v: 4.4.23 
  running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.0.12

Some more info would be helpful

sudo parted -l

And read how to format the terminal output, please



[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sudo parted -l
Model: ATA Hitachi HTS54505 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
 1      1049kB  13.6GB  13.6GB  primary  ntfs         diag
 2      13.6GB  13.7GB  105MB   primary  ntfs         boot
 3      13.7GB  500GB   486GB   primary  ntfs

Model: Lexar USB Flash Drive (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 16.0GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
 1      1049kB  16.0GB  16.0GB  primary  fat32        boot, lba
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This is enough for Manjaro.
Create an extended partition for the rest of the disk and then three logical.

mount point        Size
/                  30GB
/home         remaining space
swap               4GB

I suggest do not overkill WinOS with shrinking. Leave some space for it to avoid it being broken.

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I guess Gparted will do a great job to do so(?
No,ofc not. I'll leave it around 80Gb or more because I'll still use it sometimes.

Yes. It is preferred to re-partition with Gparted and then reboot and do the Installation with the installer

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Alright then.
Last question:

Is this mount point /var ? (in the installer options there's no swap,so I guess)

You need to change the partition type to be linux swap.

You can do this in the installer or gparted.

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Okay,I think I have a little issue I need advice on in this step.
Windows 7 only allows me to shrink this space(It's in spanish because I'm from Spain hehe) Espacio%20a%20reducir-administrador%20de%20discos
I mean,if I do some bad calculations I get to the limit. Can I shrink it using Gparted? I don't want to maybe delete some data right after that amount. I've also read about fragmentation but idk what you know about it.
If it's somewhat useful,this is C: properties:(using link bc I'm a new user)
C: properties

In Windows, defragment your drive. Also check if some file(s) is(are) pinned and cannot be moved (running or system). After that, it should(?) be possible to shrink it more and safely.

Yes, gparted should be able shrink it for you and help rearrange the data to make it fit.

Regardless of which method you use, make sure you backup any important data.

So, I've defragmented my drive,twice and I still have the same amount of space. Idk if I should touch anything else,it's a little complicated.
I will do some more cleaning but if I still have the same amount space,would this partitioning scheme be okay for Manjaro? I'll only use it for office and multimedia purposes

(Manjaro version 17.1.11)
mount point   Size
/                       30GB
/home           20-25GB
swap             4GB

At my understanding Windows partition would still have around 166Gb free which is way more than enough.

If you are tight on space, you are probably better off not having a separate /home Just do:

mount point     Size
swap            4GB
/               < whatever space you have left >
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I will do that then. I have more than enough space on exetrnal drives for the backups. Thanks

Do you mean the message that appears on the Disk management when you're about to shrink C: or to check it another way?

I've done the partitioning, installed,updated and did some set-up on Manjaro. So, thank you for your help! :slight_smile:

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