Xfce GTK3

Hi everyone, I just want a consensus on this - does anyone think that the GTK3 version of Xfce is stable enough to use as a daily driver?

  • Xfce GTK3 is stable enough
  • Stick with GTK2 version for now

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An interesting question would be, "What are the advantages to switching to the gtk3 version at this point?"

good point. What are your views?

Another way to frame that would be to ask, what are the disadvantages of switching?

MATE switched to GTK3 a while ago and I haven't missed the GTK2 version at all - though I am also running with gtk3-classic/gtk3-mushrooms so everything looks about the same.

Been using it for months without any problems....

First of all, after re-reading my post, I feel like I should point out that it was an honest question, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.

It has been a while since I ran xfce regularly but it ran it for several days recently and I did not notice a major difference in the gtk3 version.

I was curious if people who spend more time in xfce had noticed a material difference. For example, I didn't test to see if hidpi support was improved.

Fair enough, in my time with it I encountered no issues or material disadvantages.

However, at least in the version I was using, only the core xfce components had been replaced with gtk3 versions so I was curious if there was an advantage to switching before more of the ecosystem had been converted to gtk3.

If it was me, I would switch as long as there was no major disadvantage because I like having the latest stuff and it feels way cooler to have something built with gtk3 that something built with gtk2. That being said, I was curious if there was a more practical benefit.

@dalto I think you should join the cool kids using xfce4-gtk3.... we'd love to have you! :rofl:

i've been replacing a bit at a time and reverting the bits that don't work and then trying again a few months later. at this point all that's left is xfdesktop and xfwm4. i tried xfdesktop-gtk3 again tonight and it wouldn't show the correct icons for some desktop files, even when it showed the correct icons for them in properties dialogs. a bit of google didn't find me anything useful, so i just reverted again. there's no hurry and i don't feel like fighting with it.

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Until Xfce 4.14 is released, why moving to gtk3 development version ?

Migrating to gtk3 is one of the main features of Xfce 4.14 if you read xfce roadmap: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap

Roadmap / Planned Features

* All components of -core will be ported to Gtk+ 3.
* Replace dbus-glib with GDbus.
* [Review icon-names in all components and use consistent naming](https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap/icon-names), following the fd.o spec where possible
* Use [symbolic icons for panel plugins](https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap/symbolic-icons) and in apps where suitable
* Replace [deprecated widgets](https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap/deprecated-widgets).

So...

@fredb74 I chose to move in order to help test what works and doesn't so that 4.14 might work better for everyone... but that choice is personal. As I said in the past few months I have encountered nothing significant or in any way alarming. GTK3 seems as stable now as the gtk2 version does for everything I do... except for the dropbox-Thunar add-on.

You wanted to help testing, and it is very kind of you. I was just giving back some informations about Xfce and GTK3. Nothing less, nothing more.

No worries @fredb74 ...:slight_smile:

Third option: Don't install Xfce.

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Thanks for this thread @notthenewsreader! I was about to ask the same thing.
This was really informational. Now I also know why there are two groups in pamac when I search for xfce4!

I think future is Qt then any gtk based DE?.I stick Xfce almost 5 years but I realized many apps that I use qt based and qt apps on gtk-2 or 3 don't make any sense because they never looks polished and you also have to install lots of kde and qt dependencies. BTW many themes still dont fit with gtk apps and looks weird. When I last try I notice cause more heat and energy consumption even more than KDE :confused: And HDPi support still just a joke.
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=List_of_Qt_Applications
BTW there is no Okular and Kdenlive this list. What shame just kidding best regards :slight_smile:

Don't under estimate XFCE4... they have a new and energetic team leader Sean Davis (see:https://bluesabre.org/tag/xfce/) who is doing quite a lot. XFCE also has an excellent reputation for being light, stable, and easily customized albeit slow in absorbing new technologies.

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Manjaro Wiki - Set all Qt app's to use GTK+ font & theme settings

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This is the first thing I do after installaing manjaro but it not looks actually how looks on KDE.

@mgundogdu if you want KDE look & Feel you really should use it. Nothing else will match it without a lot of work and even then it will be second best. Each Desktop Environment offers unique strengths (and weaknesses). I recommend taking advantage of those features you most value within the environment you feel does 'those things' best. Remember that just because an automobile and bicycle both have wheels they do not perform the same way, nor will they ever. :wink:

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I don't know what gave you way for you thinking that I was underestimating XFCE! I've been using xubuntu for the last 1 year in my work laptop and I am in the process of changing both my personal laptops to XFCE in Manjaro. They are light, stable and awesome which is exactly why I am making the shift. I just didn't know about the exact reasons why there was two groups in Pamac is all! :slight_smile:

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